tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post8501725317550478216..comments2023-09-25T22:26:25.692+10:00Comments on mnml ssgs: Why I Can Never Return to (the) Wombchrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17030219185948353658noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-67747235727532714502009-04-24T09:48:00.000+10:002009-04-24T09:48:00.000+10:00YES! Finally!
Womb was fun the three first times...YES! Finally! <br /><br />Womb was fun the three first times I went, and it was my first club experience as a new comer in the land of the rising sun. But I haven't gone to Womb ever since I started caring about what sort of musical environment I immerse myself into.<br /><br />What finally put a nail in my coffin as far as Womb is concerned (I can't remember even considering going there for more than a year) was when one of the guys at the door charged me double of what I was supposed to pay when I was on a list for discount. Money is never a real issue, but acting like an asshole about it is.<br /><br />If you come to Tokyo and you go to Womb for your parties, well, I'd say you're missing out on far better experiences. Unit (in Daikanyama) was mentioned in the article, and is my current favorite. Extra points for wooden floor which makes dancing into the small morning hours even more enjoyable!<br /><br />Oh, I was at Module that night too by the way. :)Nobuhttp://nobu.fjordsnasty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-13907505260068932602009-04-23T22:03:00.000+10:002009-04-23T22:03:00.000+10:00Hey Madi, I was chatting with you for a bit at the...Hey Madi, I was chatting with you for a bit at the Dettman night. Great set eh! I could`t agree more with the womb review. I went to the Sven Vath night in January and even the stairwell was too packed to move in. Ridiculous. I remember the crowd being decent when I first went there, but it has really gone to shit. Oh well...Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-15968754740577262642009-04-15T11:55:00.000+10:002009-04-15T11:55:00.000+10:00Hey Cam,
great post and yes, Womb is a sad place...Hey Cam, <br /><br />great post and yes, Womb is a sad place. used to enjoy it, but that was quite a while ago. <br />Then again, comparing it to "clubs" in Singapore, it's pure bliss. What they do to the concept of "a good night out" or "great music" or plain "clubbing" is very painful. I have stopped going to clubs- no way, I will ever enter any of these shitholes again (eventhough, if I can show my citibank platinum card, i get to skip the line- YAAAAAAAY). <br /><br />Back to Womb and the staff-discussion. Comparing them to staff at Berlin clubs, they are still friendly. I recall many nights in Berlin, where I or my friends would get serious shit from staff at clubs that thought they were way too cool for this planet. Especially at Berhain, where they all seem to deem themselves gods. <br /><br />Cheerio from Singapore! (and the last time I enjoyed good music? with my in-ear-plugs at the museum, listening to a Marcel Dettmann mix)Marennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-56692528696201533732009-04-13T05:46:00.000+10:002009-04-13T05:46:00.000+10:00your review of Womb could be replaced word for wor...your review of Womb could be replaced word for word with Circa in Toronto. What a disappointment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-89446456133832281022009-04-01T02:01:00.000+11:002009-04-01T02:01:00.000+11:00I was at Module when Marcel Dettmann played, had a...I was at Module when Marcel Dettmann played, had a wicked time, the club is so dark, respect to the warm up DJ's Yoshiki and Ditch...Shed and Ben Klock were both there too and I had a good chat with all of them, cool guys, respect Berlin indeed. Incidentally I met a bunch of expats while dancing at Module: British, Canadians and Americans...if you remember that tall black guy that was me! <BR/><BR/>Have to say Womb is a bit too big for my style and yes Ben Klock had to hammer it out just to satisfy the crowd, he played Subzero at a fast tempo, aarrrgh...Shed on the other hand played his own material, a bit more laid back.<BR/><BR/>Japanese clubbing scene is nowhere near the version in Europe but overall I had a great time...its a pity I didn't get to go to Unit, maybe next time.Madinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-30053951284748666792009-03-29T23:57:00.000+11:002009-03-29T23:57:00.000+11:00@ shortino: having spent quite a bit of time livin...@ shortino: having spent quite a bit of time living and visiting japan, i have to completely disagree with you. liquid room and yellow were of the best clubs i've ever been to and i've had many special nights in tokyo. i found much more than in other places people there have a real enthusiasm and knowledge for the music. seriously, japan is great for techno, just not womb.chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17030219185948353658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-75849116063395799532009-03-29T11:44:00.000+11:002009-03-29T11:44:00.000+11:00interesting post I although I have never being to ...interesting post I although I have never being to womb I have some close friends that used to live in Tokyo and what they basically told me is....You dont go to Japan for clubbing. It doest really have the clubbing culture of other western cities.<BR/><BR/>This post seems to in some degree affirm what my friend talked about and I think the fascination with womb is more to do with certain media in the dance music industry fascination with something that is decked out so nicely and in a 'exotic' location such as Japan...Shortinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120803788432833386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-23956328408193088162009-03-27T13:21:00.000+11:002009-03-27T13:21:00.000+11:00yes, womb sucks. it has sucked for many years. the...yes, womb sucks. it has sucked for many years. the crowding especially became too much.<BR/><BR/>I've had a few good times there, but mostly the morning at the afters upstairs. Are they still doing them?<BR/><BR/>But more to the point, are there any great new spaces in Tokers? I am looking forward to a visit in Sept!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-9328769822000061202009-03-27T03:55:00.000+11:002009-03-27T03:55:00.000+11:00Yeah, have to confirm it was the now-familiar Kevi...Yeah, have to confirm it was the now-familiar Kevin-and-Sharon-go-clubbing scene even at Klock/Shed, although not as grotesque as usual, and both sets were very doable, on balance glad I went. Very much an alcohol scene though (although not just Womb tbf). I don't get grooving to intelligent techno on copious alcohol. I should try harder, I suppose.<BR/><BR/>Serious overcrowding at Womb and Unit is a(nother) fire-disaster waiting to happen. And does anyone else get the additional elbows and 'accidental' pushes from behind at Womb (and Unit) from hopeful clubbers who reckon that every blissed out gaijin must be a dealer? I'm guilty of additionally looking Mediterranean/Israeli, so I've learned to accept it to a degree, but Womb is the club in Tokyo where I pretty well get chased around the place...not conducive to going deeper places with the music.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-86637507374461135282009-03-27T03:50:00.000+11:002009-03-27T03:50:00.000+11:00what is this talk of sheds and wombs? how strangewhat is this talk of sheds and wombs? how strangeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-59144592619594132062009-03-27T01:16:00.000+11:002009-03-27T01:16:00.000+11:00I have to agree with the consensus here - haven't ...I have to agree with the consensus here - haven't enjoyed Womb much either of the times I have visited. Aside from the issues with crowding, both times I attended the musical policy seemed to be the same uneventful house and techno in every room. As far as I can tell there are at least three different areas, do they ever mix things up a little more? Was much more impressed by unit.<BR/><BR/>I dropped the ball a little and didn't see Dettmann or Klock and Shed.. I did get to see Lawrence standing in for Dj Koze in Osaka - he was good!Bee En Juanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08924766664535822824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-31973132248978095842009-03-26T13:54:00.000+11:002009-03-26T13:54:00.000+11:00Yes, Womb is CLUB, it means the salon for fashion ...Yes, Womb is CLUB, it means the salon for fashion consious people in Japan. it's not for the music.<BR/>Marcel played great set also in Future Terror. FT is perfect party for me...Fujimura Daisukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08008807077220582634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-89090858660607945252009-03-26T13:48:00.000+11:002009-03-26T13:48:00.000+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fujimura Daisukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08008807077220582634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-35260113648408028952009-03-26T12:03:00.000+11:002009-03-26T12:03:00.000+11:00hey guys...well said...sometimes i get pretty caug...hey guys...well said...sometimes i get pretty caught up in this and even to some point angry about people caring not enough about the music, but your right.<BR/>i was forgetting about the middle ground, on which actually a lot of my friends stand...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-26888824771487175232009-03-26T03:23:00.000+11:002009-03-26T03:23:00.000+11:00@ will: very good point. there is always the dange...@ will: very good point. there is always the danger with slipping into elitism on something like this. and really, i'd say the people who occupy the middle ground that play a very big job in keeping all these places afloat.chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17030219185948353658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-62044956475025460712009-03-26T02:59:00.000+11:002009-03-26T02:59:00.000+11:00About people being at clubs "for the music" or not...About people being at clubs "for the music" or not: i think there's a legitimate middle ground that's not being considered. While there are certainly plenty of people who just want to party at famous clubs, there are also tons of people who truly love underground dance music, but only in a club context. I'm guessing a lot of people who go to Berghain all the time don't know who Shed is, but they prefer Berghain to other clubs mainly because of the music they hear there(I know at least one such person). Even if they don't feel compelled to track down any of this music to listen to at home, I don't think they're appreciation is any less legitimate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-10398816968157862882009-03-26T02:58:00.000+11:002009-03-26T02:58:00.000+11:00i remember womb being much talked about years ago,...i remember womb being much talked about years ago, hosting all night jeff mills sets and such, but module sounds like its much more my speed.<BR/><BR/>and, if i read correctly, its basically the offshoot / sister club to yellow, which was always lauded as the best place in japan to play, so it can't be bad.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>must...play...japan... :)eric cloutierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11693995326147972682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-5871957276082719192009-03-26T00:55:00.000+11:002009-03-26T00:55:00.000+11:00@Will LynchRight? But I did. As did all my friends...@Will Lynch<BR/>Right? But I did. As did all my friends. That's gotta say how shitty it is.<BR/><BR/>Womb<BR/><BR/>is<BR/><BR/>EVIL<BR/><BR/>Now that I think about it, I can't recall ever hearing a decent set at Womb. Not that I've been *that* many times.やまぐhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04334424855816414899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-89867374665501080772009-03-26T00:14:00.000+11:002009-03-26T00:14:00.000+11:00@max: sometimes i feel a bit cold at berghain as w...@max: sometimes i feel a bit cold at berghain as well. and of course, the people who don't care about music and just wan't to be at the famous club is somehow higher as in the early years. but the main intention for berghain was (and still is) the music. you don't have a dangerous crowded dancefloor, you have an exciting soundsystem, the staff is mainly very friendly and is somehow connected with the music. at least no dj has to bouncing it out and there are still these great moments, where the atmosphere is exciting, vibrant and honest..<BR/><BR/>maybe there is still a big difference between berghain and womb, even though some people are going there because it's cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-90031823193944836652009-03-25T23:02:00.000+11:002009-03-25T23:02:00.000+11:00honestly...can anyone give me the name of big (hyp...honestly...can anyone give me the name of big (hyped) clubs the majority of people go for the music??<BR/>i havent been to any real clubs outside of germany, but most certainly i can tell you, that the majority of people, that go to berghain are just the same...<BR/><BR/>when i went to shed's record release at berghain hardly anyone knew him...they didnt bother checking line ups, etc.<BR/>at the end of his set the floor was halfway empty...<BR/><BR/>you cant blame people for just wanting a cool night out, but i feel the same sas you cam...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-28349410739106913272009-03-25T21:01:00.000+11:002009-03-25T21:01:00.000+11:00I totally agree with you Cam...I totally agree with you Cam...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-58898491577010653722009-03-25T16:04:00.000+11:002009-03-25T16:04:00.000+11:00Great post.As for the sound system, I've always ha...Great post.<BR/><BR/>As for the sound system, I've always had the theory that since they had licensing problems a couple of years back due to noise complaints, they limit the bass volume.<BR/><BR/>I like Colors Bar in Roppongi. Had many a good night there.<BR/><BR/>Can't believe I missed Dettman!!Tommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12272475888777098580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-2506324372715277532009-03-25T13:25:00.000+11:002009-03-25T13:25:00.000+11:00I think any club is ok with the right amount of na...I think any club is ok with the right amount of narcoticsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-21901293523003812862009-03-25T13:14:00.000+11:002009-03-25T13:14:00.000+11:00I also think age plays a part in it. The older I ...I also think age plays a part in it. The older I get, the more I crave an intimate club experience. But still I think it's a bit harsh to hassle Womb on being "too cool". The club business needs to tow a delicate line between being underground and cool(maniac love / yellow / Unit) and too corporate (Ageha). As we can see that the more underground of them don't survive. While some how Heineken sponsored, pat-down on entry souless Ageha, seems to inexplicably keep going...<BR/>For all it's faults - most of which I think are inherent in the club business (overcrowding, punters who don't care as much as you in about the music) Womb still manages to do one the best jobs in the city at being a large club but bring cutting edge DJ's to Tokyo.<BR/>While it's your choice not to attend, if Womb has the punch to can bring Shed and Ben Klock as double header - we should commend them for it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04027164538045826514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-28749999280211348292009-03-25T13:02:00.000+11:002009-03-25T13:02:00.000+11:00I agree. But generally speaking, I do think there ...I agree. But generally speaking, I do think there is a correlation between the size of a club and diminishing returns. I mean, I don't thing Fabric is that much fun either. <BR/><BR/>Anyway - I was at Dettman last week too and it was ace. Proper uncompromising techno in a dark intimate environment. What more do you need?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com