tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post6081184985532057428..comments2023-09-25T22:26:25.692+10:00Comments on mnml ssgs: plus/minuschrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17030219185948353658noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-17845949843940115622010-06-07T13:23:01.073+10:002010-06-07T13:23:01.073+10:00When I was reading the part about Richie being too...When I was reading the part about Richie being too happy to go where Plastikman came from, it reminded me of this:<br /><br />“Camus wrote like a man who had just finished a large dinner of steak and french fries, salad, and had topped it with a bottle of good French wine. Humanity may have been suffering but not him. A wise man, perhaps, but Henry preferred somebody who screamed when they burned.” - Charles Bukowski "Hot Water Music"DJ Shiva.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16853102843702253030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-11236524741131710822010-03-29T10:56:06.300+11:002010-03-29T10:56:06.300+11:00can't say i'm too impressed with anything ...can't say i'm too impressed with anything i've seen / heard in the videos floating around youtube right now...<br /><br /><br />i'll stick to my memories of him playing live in detroit ten-plus years ago.eric cloutierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11693995326147972682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-12600145315236875912010-03-29T03:24:58.249+11:002010-03-29T03:24:58.249+11:00to anyone who's interested, here's some yo...to anyone who's interested, here's some youtube footage of plastikman live yesterday (just to clarify this isn't my footage)<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyrTUr3Kp5Ebrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05564098443410949296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-36041062786198948622010-03-26T11:51:51.244+11:002010-03-26T11:51:51.244+11:00as for the plastikman live gigs. hmm... i have dec...as for the plastikman live gigs. hmm... i have decidedly mixed feelings about these. on the one hand, if he plays in japan, i will be there in a heartbeat. without doubt. and i'm sure it'll be good. when richie is on it, he is amazing, no question. quite a few of the very, very best moments i've experienced with techno have been thanks to him. and the source material for plastikman is so incredibly strong that he'll definitely be able to put together a 60-90 minute performance filled with quality. but. on the other hand, something feels not quite right about resurrecting plastikman in this way. i am still angry about the god awful dubfire remix of 'spastik', one of the worst acts of musical vandalism i have had the displeasure of hearing. the fact that he let this steaming pile of shit get released is hardly a good sign... beyond that, on a deeper level, i'm just not sure if there is much of plastikman left in richie. for me, plastikman is very deep, dark, twisted music. to put it bluntly, i think richie is too happy, carefree and enjoying his superstar DJ lifestyle. this is a long way from the dark places of his brain that plastikman must have come from. also, plastikman is the very context specific - it is tied up with the 90s and the way techno was developing then. iphone apps and the mnml m-nus lifestyle is a long way from the warehouses and raves of the '90s. all in all, i think plastikman would have been better left alone. an artifakt of a different era of techno...<br /><br /><br />100% agreed!! <br /><br />bravo cris, excellent post, in form and text*wonderlihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10877531189386613178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-84883735235233142872010-03-25T07:33:25.259+11:002010-03-25T07:33:25.259+11:00i would be very excited if Richie was trotting out...i would be very excited if Richie was trotting out all the old gear for the Plastikman live set. the fact that it's just some more computer based silliness makes me assume it will be horrible nonsense like the rest of his output from the past 10 years. he will have 10 minutes at DEMF to sound alright before i roll out to get a head start on Soul Skate. my guess is i won't even make it that long.pipecockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11092825988675368839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-81107416193486248362010-03-25T01:05:05.563+11:002010-03-25T01:05:05.563+11:00peter, as before, i think you sum up the trouble w...peter, as before, i think you sum up the trouble with the current plastikman stuff perfectly. new technology certainly does not automatically equal good content. a dull concept on an iphone is still dull.<br /><br />the more 'richie hawtin' has appeared in place of that kooky logo, the more the music stagnated and suffered. this old photo from richie's own facebook page kind of sums up what i feel has been lost:<br />tiny.cc/6iffl<br /><br />that some of remember how truly innovative and underground his stuff once was, is why we get so annoyed at the current nonsense beging passed off as 'cutting edge'.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04584632373741515165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-69587043638398737022010-03-24T22:03:36.129+11:002010-03-24T22:03:36.129+11:00The extended "Once again" is a very nice...The extended "Once again" is a very nice listen, maybe too crowded, it's like a literature review. Enjoyed it.<br /><br />Plastikman: I do not see how the good old and very original plastikman is "geeignet" for big rooms, festivals, etc. I agree with those who say that music is contextual. not just in time. Even if it were close to my location, I wouldn't go if it is a festival, mixed there in the lineup.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14375850374722326451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-44408527831058602642010-03-24T19:44:26.762+11:002010-03-24T19:44:26.762+11:00do you read my post ? can anyone confirm about thi...do you read my post ? can anyone confirm about this?Rokashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02347485108202159022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-12752783493656931972010-03-24T18:18:08.050+11:002010-03-24T18:18:08.050+11:00i got over excited when I heard the news, thinking...i got over excited when I heard the news, thinking might be new material. but alas was not to be. i dont think richie is changing... he is too far gone. beyond rescue... <br /><br />watch out for fame you talented ssgs you. it has got the better of a lot of people... question I ask is as the 'deep' sound gets bigger and more widely known, can the leaders of the scene keep it true to its underground roots or will 'deep' go the same way minimal, progressive & much else has in the past<br /><br />god i hope not...Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05871698451738502552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-74597008868060067142010-03-24T14:25:56.568+11:002010-03-24T14:25:56.568+11:00can't wait to hear the matthew hawtin thing, a...can't wait to hear the matthew hawtin thing, and this year will be my first chance to see a live plastikman set... a bit disappointing that it's only 60 minutes and nothing has been said of any new material, according to the official website... and i agree about the contrast between today and 10+ years ago in terms of state of mind (what does everyone think of the new press photos?!)... but i'll see the show if i can; sounds like it will be quite the spectacle.<br /><br />but i get to see a jpls live set soon; i wonder how that will compare because i'm still loving his new album which to me sounds like an excellent take on what plastikman might sound like today...brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05564098443410949296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-82945496021949209742010-03-24T09:08:28.924+11:002010-03-24T09:08:28.924+11:00regarding the plastikman live show...
while i'...regarding the plastikman live show...<br /><br />while i'm really curious as to what it would sound like, and i'd go if it were somewhere close to nyc (i'm not going to the demf this year, so i'll miss that one), but its the fact it says something like "new reinterpretations of old plastikman classics."<br /><br />all i can vision is an hour of tracks that sound like the dubfire remix of "spastik." like, the shit-boring-crap-mnml version of "ethnik" and the ubercoolische variant of "kriket" would probably make me firebomb the stage.eric cloutierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11693995326147972682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-66697522006939084412010-03-24T06:32:22.446+11:002010-03-24T06:32:22.446+11:00you know the touchsdesign competition? ok there wa...you know the touchsdesign competition? ok there was a pack to download it had 60minutes of plastikman 'live' as i understand the new show , bvecause you were makingvisuals.. and there was spastik dubfire remix . then i turned off it and totally forgot about the new plastikman , im still waiting for the new performance but if its like that.. sorry :(Rokashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02347485108202159022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-82718297130218812522010-03-24T04:04:40.542+11:002010-03-24T04:04:40.542+11:00What old plastikman did you happen to flick onto o...What old plastikman did you happen to flick onto out of curiousityBrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567321951314582834noreply@blogger.com