tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post3273879825014247705..comments2023-09-25T22:26:25.692+10:00Comments on mnml ssgs: mnml ssgs mx20: Klimekchrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17030219185948353658noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-66037729492666641762009-02-14T14:49:00.000+11:002009-02-14T14:49:00.000+11:00Hi Will,"Virtually all the (good) ambient music I'...Hi Will,<BR/><BR/>"Virtually all the (good) ambient music I've heard relies on tension and melancholy." <BR/><BR/>Actually, I completely agree. Speaking personally, the best ambient music has some tension or drama at work, even the stuff that I consider to be extremely relaxing - because otherwise there's no "hook" and the music just floats off into the ether.<BR/><BR/>But (and it's a big but) the problem that I was trying to get as is that for an awful lot of people the word "ambient" is synonymous with "relaxation". Music that is primarily used for chilling out to - which is to say music that has no "bite". Aural wallpaper.<BR/><BR/>(Of course, this is the point that somebody pops up to say that Erik Satie deliberately intended his music to be not listened to directly, and Eno designed his pieces to be listened to both directly and indirectly.)<BR/><BR/>Now, there's absolutely nothing wrong with using ambient music to relax to (or come down to) ... God knows I've "used" the music for that purpose often myself! But I think that with this being the main image people have of "ambient", the notion that such music can have bite, tension, drama, and *actively* engage with the listener and the world around them is kinda lost.<BR/><BR/>"Klimek is an exceptionally good producer, but I disagree with the notion that he's too sophisticated to be called ambient. Plenty of ambient artists have impressive ideas behind their work, and besides, "ambient" is simply an accurate way to describe Klimek's music."<BR/><BR/>Another reason why I wanted to avoid using the word "ambient" in connection to Meissner's Klimek productions is that he himself is very uncomfortable with the word. I just posted an interview with him where he explains his views on the word, along with his intended meaning of the title "Music to Fall Asleep to".Camhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03798760041491301736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-49031935120580111822009-02-11T12:01:00.000+11:002009-02-11T12:01:00.000+11:00"No doubt because of the Kompakt connection, Klime..."No doubt because of the Kompakt connection, Klimek is usually described as an “ambient” project, although the term – all too often used in connection with aural wallpaper or music to just relax to – fails to describe the tension that exists at the heart of Meissner’s carefully measured compositions."<BR/><BR/>Not sure about this. Virtually all the (good) ambient music I've heard relies on tension and melancholy. Klimek is an exceptionally good producer, but I disagree with the notion that he's too sophisticated to be called ambient. Plenty of ambient artists have impressive ideas behind their work, and besides, "ambient" is simply an accurate way to describe Klimek's music. <BR/><BR/>And while I wouldn't say that Klimek is music *just* to relax to, he's about as soporific as it gets. After all, he did author an album called "Music To Fall Asleep," whose title really couldn't be more accurate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-39815913261183048692009-02-08T09:37:00.000+11:002009-02-08T09:37:00.000+11:00I love the singing at the beginning. I keep going ...I love the singing at the beginning. I keep going back to listen to it.Azarbayejanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01691902013941087145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-5372663823204719982009-02-07T11:56:00.000+11:002009-02-07T11:56:00.000+11:00this is an absolute listening delight. from l. coh...this is an absolute listening delight. from l. cohen to a sample of werner herzog in mister lonely, how can you go wrong? thank you ssgs.Stoic Swinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17989322902040616376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-65079626871280012862009-02-07T06:54:00.000+11:002009-02-07T06:54:00.000+11:00had hopes for this as a fan, and it has some good ...had hopes for this as a fan, and it has some good moments...but on the whole not really feeling it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-38827345735705700162009-02-06T11:50:00.000+11:002009-02-06T11:50:00.000+11:00A ssgs mx with a Butthole Surfers track. Well I n...A ssgs mx with a Butthole Surfers track. Well I never.djhubajubehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02401869660718918691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-67871006510842115692009-02-06T09:37:00.000+11:002009-02-06T09:37:00.000+11:00ah fantastic, thanks! i loved that random inc / b...ah fantastic, thanks! i loved that random inc / bizz circuits stuff, especially walking in jerusalem, but somehow totally missed the klimek project so this is really exciting to reconnect with mr meissner's work.<BR/><BR/>also i think your new tactic of withholding tracklists for a few days is working great, especially in this case :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7220957931635097123.post-14136794628959415572009-02-06T05:57:00.000+11:002009-02-06T05:57:00.000+11:00awesome, can't wait to check this after work !awesome, can't wait to check this after work !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com